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In this episode of The Turn On, Erica and Kenrya read Sabrina B. Scales' "Quarantined: A Collection of Shorts" and talk pandemic mess, capitalism, innovation and the ways we are all connected.

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Kenrya: Come here. Get Off.
 
[theme music]
 
Erica: Hey, y'all. So welcome to this week's episode of The Turn On. Today, we are reading [crosstalk 00:00:25] “Quarantine: A Collection of Shorts.” I mean, I knew it was Quarantine, but I needed the rest of it. “Quarantine: A Collection of Shorts,” written by Sabrina B Scales in 2020. So sit back, relax, get your wine and your weed, whatever you need, and enjoy.

Kenrya: “Quarantine: A Collection of Shorts” by Sabrina B Scales. If dick was a slice of pressed ham, then Jabari's was a meat market jumping under those joggers like a caged animal as he deposited me on his bed and dragged his eyes from the tips of my toes to the top of my bonnet. I wanted to smile. I wanted to cry. I wanted to call my mama and tell her where I left my pre-written eulogy just in case the summer sausage I was drooling over took me out with my full permission. I had never experienced terror and want so intensely at the same time. My heart was beating like the TSU drum line, and my pussy had taken up the English language. “Oh, we about to get fucked fucked,” she celebrated as Jabari pulled his T-shirt off over his head and threw it across the room.

Kenrya: Make sure this nigga got a condom. That dick is definitely going to reach the fallopian tubes," she warned as he pushed his joggers down and off, leaving nothing to the imagination behind those deep gray boxer briefs. You'd think I'd never been in a man's bed before the way I was lying there, hanging on his every move, void of words or even instinct to tell me to sit up or take off my clothes or crawl toward him and pry the dick from its cotton prison. None of that could possibly feel better than watching this show that Jabari was putting on, teasing me in a way that only he could, bringing into fruition an exhibition that had been 26 years in the making.

Kenrya: With the silhouette of his dick laying long and crooked against the inside of his thigh, he approached the foot of his platform bed with no footboard there to block his entry. Those stoned eyes melted me even further into the mattress as he planted his palms on the ice white comforter and began his ascension into this forever sacred space where I lay like a damsel in distress. I tingled inside, every inch of me did. And those butterflies that I cursed to hell earlier, they were still alive and well acting as internal audience members. My feet were the first thing he touched, taking each of them into his big hands and massaging them one by one as if it had been all he meant or wanted to do.

Kenrya: I didn't even bother hiding the fact that that shit felt good and likely couldn't because he was in my head and could probably feel me about to come to the tips of my curling toes. My calves were next, accepting the warmth and strength of his palm as he rubbed up their length before bathing the back of them with his tongue. Flames were firing off in my belly and chest, and I legitimately feared I might spontaneously combust. But then my thighs, God, he parted my thighs like the Red Sea, nibbling at the soft flesh on the inside, staring up at me like he wanted to witness my undoing. And he would, and soon if he kept traveling north, because my pussy had just put out a mix tape and every song had Jabari's name in the title.

Kenrya: I breathed a sigh relief when he paused the thigh nibbling. Then quickly felt the oxygen being pulled from my lungs when pushed a long thick finger under my shorts and panties between my slick folds, finding a way to my opening without the need for directions. My back left the bed as I arched against this palm, mouth and legs flew wide open, welcoming everything he brought. I blinked and I shivered and I probably blacked out, coming to, to find his hands dragging my shorts and panties off. “Pretty ass pussy.” This nigga was talking to my vagina, even leaned in to kiss it in the same way he kissed my lips.

Kenrya: Waving his head from side to side, making a mess on his beard, he pulled my clit between those soft lips and sucked it until it swelled. Fuck was the only word left in my memory bank. Well, and shit, I discovered when he sucked my pussy harder. I bucked against the space, lying there in nothing but a tank top, naked from the waist down, held captive by his mouth. “You taste so fucking good, Nicki,” he managed to breathe out a complete sentence, glancing up at the mess that I had quickly become before he buried his face back between my legs. “I knew you would.” He didn't bother lifting his head this time, sending his words down the narrow flow of my sex, where they rightfully belonged.

Kenrya: Feeling the familiar arrival of climax rearing its head, I palmed the back of Jabari's head like a basketball, sinking my fingers into his short, kinky locks, rolling my hips up and down the spread of his lips. I bathed his hands and face with my nectar, bucking into him harder and faster until there was nothing left but fragments of me shattering all over his mouth without a single solitary complaint.

Erica: Okay, y'all. So thank you, Kenrya, for that lovely rendition. I'm committed to calling each time you read an excerpt, a rendition, just so you know.

Kenrya: I was like, “Oh, we doing that again? Okay.”

Erica: Yeah. Okay. So thank you for that rendition of “Quarantine.” Okay, so here's the thing. This is what this book is about. So it's a collection of shorts. It's three short stories, which I actually really enjoy because you know me and my inability to stick to anything. So it's three short stories and it starts with this guy and this chick. They live in the same building. And then, in their story, she mentions his brother. Then the next story is about his brother, I mean, her brother. And then the next story is about somebody else in the third story. So it just all links, but their three stories and it's all about quarantine. It's like what we went through, right? It actually really was...

Kenrya: And some of us are still going through.

Erica: Yeah.

Kenrya: Yeah. [crosstalk 00:07:34]

Erica: Booster, booster, yeah, that's me. I'm so trifling. I was out before the booster, but anyway. So this was really flashbacky. It really got me. It put me back in the feelings that I felt in the middle of quarantine, not knowing what the fuck was happening, what was going on, toilet paper supplies going crazy, so that was really interesting. So premise of the story, this chick, she lives in the same apartment building as her brother and his best friend. And her brother is on a vacation with some chick. In their story, we later find out they're stuck there. And this chick and her brother's best friend is in the house, stuck, quarantined. Her brother's best friend is a DJ, like D-Nice. Right?

Kenrya: He's basically D-Nice. Yeah.

Erica: Yeah. He's basically D-Nice. And there's been some, I'm looking at you, you looking at me things going on. And this story, “Quarantined,” happens and hijinks ensue ... Right?

Kenrya: Yeah.

Erica: Right. So first, the book is really well written. I felt like I was listening to my homegirl telling me a story, right? At some point she was like, “Oh, we about to get fucked fucked.” And I was like, “Oh, this is some shit.” I felt like my home girl was in the middle of telling me, “Girl, let me tell you what the fuck went down.” So it was really good in that sense that ... And then also there was a scene where she went to his house to drop off some stuff and he had lettuce. And she was like, yeah, you got that bougie lettuce in a plastic thing that he bought normally, but the rest of us niggas was buying it once we ran out of regular lettuce. And I was like, yo, I know the lettuce she's talking about, and I know the situations that she's talking about. You know how you go to the grocery store and you need one thing, but they're out, so then you get the bougie for no reason example of it?

Kenrya: I mean, probably what I get is already the bougie version, the bougie stuff, because we eat organic.

Erica: You would not have gotten that only because it's packaged in a way that you're like, oh, my God, no, this is horrible for the environment. And I don't know, maybe it is those lettuce. It's like the bibb lettuce, and maybe it is organic, but it defeats the purpose because it's in this plastic clam shell.

Kenrya: So not like the clam shell salads, but this is just lettuce that's like [crosstalk 00:10:34]

Erica: It's a head of Bibb lettuce. It's got the little things attached to the bottom.

Kenrya: But it's?

Erica: Roots, and it's in a plastic clam ... It's like it's just bougie for no reason. And she was like, this bougie motherfucker and his lettuce. And I was like, yo, again, such great writing that just reminds me of ... Here's the thing. I feel like sometimes when people try to get too familiar and too current eventsy, where they're dropping shit that happened yesterday, the shit sounds weird. It reminds of the guy in the movie last night that we were watching.

Kenrya: I was just thinking ... Yeah. It rings false. It feels like you're trying too hard.

Erica: Yeah.

Kenrya: But this felt super organic and it felt like we really did just drop down in the middle of their lives, and this is how they speak and it's the way that we speak.

Erica: Yeah, it was good.

Kenrya: Yeah.

Erica: And then the Method Man comment? So she was sitting on the couch.

Kenrya: I don't remember.

Erica: She was sitting on the couch in the middle of pandemic with my hair bonnet on because, God forbid, we the last people on earth and I got to repopulate the planet with Method Man, and he comments on my split ends. And I'm just like, so Black yet so true. It's like, damn, Sabrina, I really felt like I was just listening to my homegirl shoot the shit, so love that. Okay. So like I said, this guy, his name is Jabari, but this nigga D-Nice. Just [crosstalk 00:12:22]

Kenrya: He's basically doing club quarantine. Yeah.

Erica: Yeah. He calls it Club Jabari or something like that.

Kenrya: Yeah.

Erica: And it brought me back to the first time I was listening to D-Nice, when he just started doing his thing. Did you do any of that?

Kenrya: A couple of times? I would dip in for a few minutes at a time. Yeah.

Erica: Yeah. And so it was just, to me, it really reminded me of going back to that. It took me back to that place. Like, Ooh, D-Nice is doing this thing because see, I was an early adopter. I was on before he even hit 100,000. I think the live that he hit 100,000 was the third or fourth one I had listened to, because before, early on, he kept getting kicked off at an hour. So then he got kicked off and he had to start all over again. So I was like, yo, this is just ... it was beautiful. To me, it was really dope that everybody sitting at home, and you see fucking Oprah and Gayle in the chats, along with some nigga I went to high school with. It felt good. I felt like we were all sitting at home, drinking, eating our body weight in cheese or bread or potatoes in your instance and just quarantining it up. So it made me happy. What were you going to say?

Kenrya: Yeah. I think it's interesting. And I think it speaks to the different places that you and I are in, that when you look at this it's with nostalgia and ...

Erica: Oh, no, nigga. No, no, no, no, no.

Kenrya: Well, it sounds like it. It sounds like it.

Erica: I find bits of joy in it. I find bits of joy in it because actually I was out there and my brother was watching quarantine. He was watching Tiger King and seeing that brought me back to a very specific place. I was sitting out there on the couch working, because I was still trying to figure out where I was going to be working. I was in the throws of chemo, and I remember there were certain things that just remind me of the really aspects of quarantine, Tiger King, #BlackAF. Isn't that the Kenya Barris Netflix show?

Kenrya: Oh, yeah. Yeah, I see it.

Erica: Yeah.

Kenrya: I didn't watch that.

Erica: Yeah. So there are very shitty, shitty parts of quarantine. There still are very shitty parts of quarantine, but I tried to highlight the more, this was lovely parts of it all, like our happy hours. Remember, we were doing our happy hours weekly?

Kenrya: Yeah. That was a long time ago it feels like.

Erica: Yeah.

Kenrya: Yeah.

Erica: But yeah, so those ... not to say that this shit ain't been difficult on you because, nigga, I see. But I think I just choose to hold on to the good bits and look at the good that came as opposed to looking quarantine as a dark cloud.

Kenrya: Okay. I guess, because I don't know. I'm just still very, very much in it. Nothing has materially changed except for that in the beginning, it felt like we were all in it together. And now it's like when you see those tweets where people are like, who else is still social distancing and wearing their masks everywhere? And you know what I mean? Can you please like this and retweet it so that I know that it's not just me? That's how I feel all the time. Yeah. I don't know. It didn't feel like a look back. It felt like this is yesterday, except for that everybody is not doing it too. And I, I, but I do remember how it felt when everybody was doing it. And it felt like everybody was taking everything really seriously. And like everybody was, you know, cause that was that before we knew how long it was going to be, that was when it was like two weeks school be closed for two weeks. Everybody stay in the house for two weeks.

Erica: I never in any way and maybe that's why I was like ... I never thought it was going to be two weeks. From the beginning I was like, we like this till spring. Now, when spring 2021 came around and we wasn't, I was like, okay, nigga, but I ... Yeah,

Kenrya: But remember, that's what they were saying when school closed. They were like, we send them home for two weeks. And yeah, no, I don't know that I ever really believed it was going to be two weeks, but I remember that there was this optimism because that's what we were being told, that it was just going to be a quick shut it down and then we out here again. And I think that the part of this that resonated with me, or the part that stuck out to me was like, oh, right, this was during that time before we knew shit. Before, we thought it was just going to be like, Ooh, okay, everybody in the house. It's peaceful, the streets are quiet, everybody's taking walks, we waving at each other. This is dope, before we realized that that wasn't going to be it.

Erica: Because now, oh, the light at the end of the tunnel. No, that was just a fucking nightlight somebody left down here.

Kenrya: Yeah. It was before cats started arguing about masking, and the hoteps started telling us that they was going to try to track us with a vaccine. It was simpler times.

Erica: Yeah. Yeah.

Kenrya: Yeah.

Erica: I think that's the nostalgia that I feel about it when you say, I look. ... Yeah, because again, I knew from the very beginning that this shit was not going to be a two-week thing. I was like, it take us two weeks to fucking pick our color underwear or something. Yeah, I did not because I was like, we ain't going nowhere till there's a vaccine, and they ain't doing no vaccine in two weeks. And we just now getting to kids having it. But okay, so D-Nice parties were my ... I remember we did our What Brings You Joy Series as a thing. And yeah, I think ... Did I say D-Nice? I think I said auntie music.

Kenrya: I don't remember, probably. It was probably auntie music because that's all the time. Yeah.

Erica: Exactly. But yeah, so D-Nice, club quarantine certainly got me through it. Okay, so Jabari was D-Nice, but not really because this nigga also had a job. He started a virtual assistant business to pay for his ... doing the shit he wants to. And he was like, I don't even want to do that shit, but he had to. And I remember at one point ... So at the beginning quarantine, I was doing chemo and had a fucked up sleep schedule. I would call them night naps.

Kenrya: That's when you were up in the middle of the night, all that. Yeah.

Erica: Yeah. I would call them night naps because I would go to bed at 11 and then be up at 12:30, and be like, well, I'm up. So on a night nap, I was watching this show on Fuse and it was T-Pain's School of Hustle or some shit like that. And it was an old episode, but it was this guy talking about how he built this virtual reality concert thing, so everybody could put on their VR headsets and watch a concert. And I was like, yo, [crosstalk 00:21:00] this nigga was ahead of his time.

Kenrya: Yeah.

Erica: I mean, and they've actually used it. Actually, I think in a sick twist of fate, I think Travis Scott was one of the first artists to do a show. Yeah.

Kenrya: Should have stayed with that shit.

Erica: Exactly. But it made me think about how Jabari, he had a virtual assistant business. And I'm just like, yo, people like that, that did that shit was really ahead of the time and probably knew. I mean, I don't even think they knew what the fuck they ... well, some people might have, but Zoom, I used to joke and say Zoom sponsored the fucking pandemic, because them niggas knew what they was doing. At work, we were preparing for virtual stuff. And so it wasn't as ... well, it was horrible at my job, but we had our minds on being able to help people work virtually. And it's just like, yo, some people really hit a lick in the pandemic. I have people that I talk to that do sex adjacent stuff, like selling toys and shit like that. And they was like, yo, niggas was fucking during pandemic, because I was making money like crazy. So I was just like, again, pandemic sucked, but at the same time, I think there was some growth that came out of it. Like I said, some people hit a lick.

Kenrya: Yeah. I think I'm having trouble with that language.

Erica: What do you mean? Was?

Kenrya: No, no, no, with the ... I guess maybe hit a lick is accurate. I guess it's like I'm having trouble with the juxtaposition of folks essentially profiting off of the pandemic. Right? But just because I'm having trouble with it doesn't mean it's not true. I'm just having trouble situating that alongside like ...

Erica: ... niggas dying.

Kenrya: Exactly.

Erica: Yeah.

Kenrya: And niggas specifically too, right? Yeah.

Erica: This comes from someone who lost someone very close to her at the very beginning of the pandemic. But I'm of the thought where it's like, if we going to go through this horrible shit, let's something good come from it. And it'd be different if it was like niggas was reselling toilet paper, that kind of shit. Nigga, you tripping.

Kenrya: They probably was.

Erica: They probably was. Look, remember Amazon and the wipes and shit, or reselling wipes and hand sanitizer? That, not so much. But I do think it's really cool that some people were building businesses that were based to support a more virtual world, a more virtual economy. And it enabled us to still connect and be around each other, and they made some money off of it. To me, there's a difference between making money off of it and exploiting or taking advantage of people in the midst of this. So I guess that's why I'm like, eh, niggas was fucking. That's a great thing. Maybe somebody was getting some good sex. Some people were not and realized that they hate their fucking partners, which I think is what happened in the second story in this book. Right?

Kenrya: No, they didn't realize they hated each other. It just made them think about their relationship, forced them to evaluate what they really wanted it to be.

Erica: Yeah.

Kenrya: Yeah.

Erica: Yeah.

Kenrya: Yeah. I mean, I'm with you on the innovation aspect of it.

Erica: That's it.

Kenrya: Yeah, as opposed to the capitalism aspect of it. Yeah, folks were forced to innovate. Even you mentioned earlier that when D-Nice first started doing the club quarantine that he kept getting cut off at after an hour. And I think stuff like that and Versus forced like IG to change the way that it handled people with large followings and how they configured their platform to be able to bring more people together. That was pretty dope. And it forced companies to have to be more accessible to their employees. It forced people who are throwing conferences and conventions to rethink the ways that they bring those things to people.

Kenrya: And so from an innovation, accessibility aspect of it, I think it's been fantastic, people being able to work from home in these companies where they swore up and down that you couldn't work from home. And now all of a sudden you're forced to and, oh, shit, look at that. Y'all figured this shit out. Of course the challenge, right, is for people to keep that up, to keep having conferences be accessible so that folks who aren't able to be there physically can still participate, to keep making it an option for people to be able to work from home so they're not forced to come into offices where accessibility is an issue for them.

Kenrya: And even to just think about the fact that folks have responsibilities that are not just work, and if they can do their jobs from home without having to come into an office, why prop up commercial real estate for the ... That's why, right, folks are making people come back into offices when folks can live their lives and do their jobs from home, and still be wonderful employees, and still serve the mission of the companies, while also taking better care of themselves and the people who they love. I think for the companies and the organizations that embrace that and who are continuing to embrace that. Ooh, and also telehealth, the fact that that turned into a real ... Yeah. Think about how much easier it got once you started being able to do your appointments. Nobody was offering that, not really, before the pandemic.

Erica: They had all these fucking laws in the way. Right?

Kenrya: Yeah. Yeah, and [crosstalk 00:27:52]

Erica: And insurance wasn't covering certain shit. Yeah. Yeah.

Kenrya: I definitely see those as silver linings that have come out. I think the challenge is just for companies to keep doing it. One of my doctors is transitioning back to in person. Now she's down to just one day where you can do telehealth. And I'm like, I can't. So it's either I got to get myself together, right, which is what I'm doing. Or drive all the way the fuck to where she is or wait weeks to be able to virtual because everybody wants virtual, but she's only available one day a week that way now. So it's like, damn, why can't y'all ... let's keep moving forward. Don't say, oh, okay, [crosstalk 00:28:38] we think the world should open. Let's move backward again, because so many folks benefited from the increase in accessibility that was caused by the pandemic.

Erica: Yeah. Yeah.

Kenrya: Yeah.

Erica: One of my doctors has now a physician's assistant that is dedicated to telehealth, and I appreciate that because I'm like, Hey, girl, we don't do this right here. And it's helped a lot. So yeah, I totally agree, particularly about the accessibility. I follow this disability advocate on ... activist, I'm sorry, disability activist on TikTok, Crutches & Spice. I love her. She's so spicy.

Kenrya: That's Imani, right?

Erica: I don't even know her name. I just know it's Crutches & Spice.

Kenrya: I think that's Imani Barbarin.

Erica: I love her ass because she has...

Kenrya: And she is spicy.

Erica: Yeah, and she's got really good takes on everything. It's not just disability. She has dope takes on everything, but it's also dope. It's also dope that she's just disabled and being a bad bitch. Totally off topic, there was a TikTok with this Black girl that was like, I took my company to the stock exchange. And she stitched and was like, wait, that's you? I love your clothes. I want to model for you, and now she does.

Kenrya: And she did. Yeah. I saw those pictures [crosstalk 00:30:15] that she posted on Twitter.

Erica: I was like, yo, I fucking love this.

Kenrya: Yeah. Yeah.

Erica: So yeah. Also, I became a TikTok queen during quarantine.

Kenrya: You did.

Erica: Okay. So enough of the gloom and doom of quarantine, because we he was doing a lot of that. So Jabari, he sees Nicki, they chat it up for a minute. Nicki goes back to her room. I think the hotel is her apartment, and she happens to go on IG. He's going live, so she pops in his room, which [crosstalk 00:30:56].

Kenrya: No, he told her he was going to be on, and she was trying to avoid it on some, I don't need [crosstalk 00:31:02].

Erica: So here's the thing. I think it was more one of those ... You know how it's like, so and so was going live and you accidentally hit it? Like, fuck, I'm in a room with two other people.

Kenrya: I've done that.

Erica: Can I just click?

Kenrya: Back out slowly.

Erica: Yeah. I'm gonna back out slowly. But yeah, so I'd like to think that's what happened. But he sees her in there and he was like, I'm going to get her panties. I'm going to get her panties. How? I'm going to play a siren song. What is that siren song? Whitney Hutton, Whitty Hutton. Right?

Kenrya: Yeah.

Erica: And so he starts playing Whitney Houston.

Kenrya: What was it, “I Want to Dance With Somebody”?

Erica: Yeah. He started there.

Kenrya: Yeah.

Erica: But it was like [crosstalk 00:31:49].

Kenrya: A whole medley.

Erica: Yeah, a whole Whitney hour or something. What's your, I cannot resist this artist? If I hear this artist or song playing, I have to get up no matter where I am. I'm in a fucking grocery store, I'm at the doc ... well, no, you dance in the grocery store. I'm at the doctor's office, whatever. I hear this, hands down, I got to dance sing along, something.

Kenrya: “Cash money taking over for the ’99 and 2000s.”

Erica: So on brand. So on brand.

Kenrya: Immediately.

Erica: Immediately.

Kenrya: Yeah.

Erica: Wow. That was when I was graduating from high school. And so not only is it a good song, but it's like [crosstalk 00:32:31].

Kenrya: It's got staying power.

Erica: It was a part of life. It was like it [crosstalk 00:32:39] Yeah. He was like, taking over for the '99, 2000, nigga, I'm graduating. Yes.

Kenrya: Yeah.

Erica: Yeah. Totally. Okay. Yeah. All right.

Kenrya: What about you?

Erica: Auntie music? I sing along to all auntie music, wherever I am. I sing along. Guaranteed to make me dance? Anything like No Limit, Southern, that kind of shit, like Cash Money, Project Bitch. That shit come on, nigga, I am a project bitch. Yeah, shit like that. Did I tell you about my friend's experience with No Limit?

Kenrya: No. What?

Erica: So they came here to DC. I hope he don't get mad at me for telling this story. I'm not going to [crosstalk 00:33:40].

Kenrya: Don't say no names.

Erica: They came to DC, but it's a very specific story. They came to DC to do a show, so went to the show. A friend of his was cousins with somebody in No Limit. Right? So they all hook up after the show. He takes them niggas to Stan's and chopped up with them all night. Every picture he has of that night, he's this ... big ass cheesy grin. And I was like, yo, that night was you giving your 15, 16, 17 year old self a gift. Right?

Kenrya: Yeah.

Erica: He said, I looked Master P in the face and told him, nigga, I am a No Limit soldier. Damn near 40, told Master P, I'm a No Limit soldier. And then he went to tell me how he was about to get No Limit tattooed on his body. Thankfully, his mama told him not to.

Kenrya: Oh, shit.

Erica: But yeah, he was like, I paid for Master P's drinks and wings at Stan's. And I was like, yo, that is a dope story. He was like, I told Master P, I know you don't need me to pay for this, but I'm a No Limit soldier. I can afford to pay for my General's meal. I was like, yo. Now, the next day he was fucked up. He was like, maybe I am a limited soldier ...

Kenrya: Because the way my bank account is set up.

Erica: The way his body was set up. He was like, nigga, I'm hurting.

Kenrya: Oh, shit.

Erica: But yeah, so I was just like, yo. I was like, that was done. I was like, that is a gift to your inner child, right?

Kenrya: Yeah.

Erica: And be like ... Every picture, this nigga had a cheese ass grin on his face.

Kenrya: I love that.

Erica: Okay. The sex in this story ... What'd you say?

Kenrya: I said that was a really good question because now I'm thinking about other things. What makes me ... “Get Me Bodied,” I'm going to dance the entire time.

Erica: When I wrote the question, I was like something from Beyonce.

Kenrya: She gon' say Beyonce. Yeah. “Get Me Bodied” is [crosstalk 00:36:06]

Erica: I'm sorry. I'm swinging my sausages around.

Kenrya: ... will definitely make that happen.

Erica: Get you moving.

Kenrya: Also, there was a very specific time, a couple of years when I lived in New York, It was “Give It To Me.” And I still do that song for karaoke, Jay Z.

Erica: “Give It To Me”? Oh, [crosstalk 00:36:30] I'm like, “Give It To Me”? Okay. Yeah.

Kenrya: Yeah, “that sweet, that nasty, that gushy stuff.”

Erica: I got it now. Drunk, loud on a table, I'm going to sing it with the depths of my soul. So yeah, I totally get it.

Kenrya: I've danced in line waiting to get in the club, pissed that I didn't make it in before ... back when I used to stand in lines, before the song came on. Yeah.

Erica: So what's your karaoke song? So you said, “Give It To Me.”

Kenrya: “Give It To Me” is a go to. I typically rap. I mean, obviously, I mean, I can sing, but [crosstalk 00:37:10] rapping is hard. Yeah, but I do. Usually, I rap something that folks ain't heard for a while. Sometimes it's Pac, sometimes it's Jay. “Ain't No Fun” is a crowd favorite.

Erica: So listeners, Kenrya and I definitely did “Ain't No Fun” at Trap Karaoke one year.

Kenrya: That exists out there, somewhere in the world.

Erica: That exists out there in the ether.

Kenrya: We had a good ass time. What was it, 15,000 people? Something stupid. Not that many. How many people were there?

Erica: I don't know. Sold out Howard Theater.

Kenrya: Yeah, and we had the whole crowd. It was really beautiful, actually, fun times. There's something that I've seen. A long time ago, I used to do Erykah Badu songs, but I don't fuck with her no more, so she's dropped from the rotation. That bitch always on the wrong side of shit.

Erica: Why are you always on the wrong side?

Kenrya: And that sucks because she, I don't know, 10 years ago, was my favorite singer. I had at that point seen her perform more than anybody else, and now it's Beyonce. But I had to give her up because she always loud and fucking wrong and dangerous, quite honestly, so that's the end of that. Yeah, so I don't sing her songs anymore. That sucks. I can't remember the last thing I actually sang, but I know when we sang on my birthday, I'm pretty sure I sang something, but I don't know. What's your go to's?

Erica: Tevin Campbell, “Can We Talk.” Rick James, “Super Freak.” That's about it.

Kenrya: Okay.

Erica: Yeah. Howard Theater is 1,200, a little bit more than 1,200.

Kenrya: Okay, and I remember them. Okay. I do remember them. I know it was at 15, and I remember they said 1,500, but that would've been a violation of fire code. So we'll say it was 1,200 people.

Erica: Yeah, so yeah.

Kenrya: That was fun.

Erica: Okay. Now let's get on to the sex of the matter because they had really good sex in this. They had good sex. It was written really well. Kenrya, I'm laughing at you even doing it because it was like, oh, shit, ah, god damn.

Kenrya: And you know how I feel about that. Yeah, the interjections.

Erica: Just put your recorder like this, so people can't see you.

Kenrya: Don't look at me.

Erica: Yeah. So they talked a lot, and it was like [crosstalk 00:39:59] I talk in bed and I love being talked to because, baby, you want to see me be nasty? Ooh. Someone posted on Instagram today. Damn, I can't ... I probably won't be able to find it. It was like, what's the nastiest thing you've heard or said during sex? Some of these people are really tame. It's like, Ooh, they put my foot in their mouth. Nigga, that's level one for me.

Kenrya: Everybody's got their thing.

Erica: I love nasty people, so okay. So Sexual Essentials is the person that posted it. She's a sex educator, dope as fuck. I like following her, but I was in this shit ... first, every other comment is somebody posted up here for ideas. This bitch said, this nigga told me he was going to suck out my daily water intake.

Kenrya: Ew. That don't sound [crosstalk 00:41:15]

Erica: Yes, I love it. Lots of spit in my mouth, which someone that hates kissing [crosstalk 00:41:26] I actually don't mind it. Ah.

Kenrya: I know. And I love kissing and even that is like, Ooh, okay.

Erica: I do it.

Kenrya: Not for me.

Erica: I'm like, I do it. I have no problem, which ... Okay, spelling the name of our future child with each stroke.

Kenrya: Okay.

Erica: That was interesting.

Kenrya: It is.

Erica: Spit in my mouth ...

Kenrya: But also, that whole ... I remember people were like, oh, we spelled the alphabet. That's not consistent. I don't need a stroke that's moving all over the place. I need one that's ...

Erica: Again, it's like that pouring the water. Oh, wow. She asked me to go under her pillow and grab her favorite toys. It's always under the right pillow. Do I know you?

Kenrya: Maybe.

Erica: Because that is me all the time. Yeah, this one chic said, have them send it to your DM. Yeah. Some of these are just ... I love nasty.

Kenrya: Come back to us. Look. This bitch is scrolling.

Erica: Anyway. Yeah, so I love being talked to. If you coach me through an orgasm, nigga, [crosstalk 00:43:01] I'm out in front of your mama house. Why you being weird to me? I can't. It's just too fucking lovely.

Kenrya: I like talking too. It's just, it's fun. I don't know, it's that much more intimate? It's like you know me well enough to know the right thing to say in this moment that's not going to make me be like, oh, get up, because I've done that before. That's enough.

Erica: Oh, yeah.

Kenrya: Get up.

Erica: Yeah. Yeah. That, and ... I mean, yeah, I talk a lot. I don't think I've ever been with someone that was like, shut up. I talk a lot, right? And on one hand I be like, nigga, but then I was like, eh, I get it. I do talk a lot. Will you shut up? Be quiet.

Kenrya: I haven't, but I can think of some people where if I had opened that flood gate, I would've had to work hard to close it.

Erica: Nigga, stop

Kenrya: Shut up, nigga. Yeah. No.

Erica: Yeah. Yeah. And actually, it's interesting because depending on the lover, depends on how, what I like. I mean, not that I have a one size fit all, but for some people, I'm very dominant and I'm like, this my dick. I give lots of direction, lots of direction.

Kenrya: Which goes to that intimacy, right? [crosstalk 00:44:33]

Erica: Shit you don't remember outside of the bedroom.

Kenrya: Yeah.

Erica: Yeah. Actually, my talk game is pretty fucking good, now that I'm thinking about it [inaudible 00:44:44]

Kenrya: That's what's up. I don't know that mine is. It's okay. I'm more [crosstalk 00:44:51] I want to be talked to.

Erica: So there's this chick, Marla Stewart, she is the founder of ... her and someone else founded the Sex Down South Conference, but she teaches a sex talk class, how to sex talk. And it's actually really good because she's like, we're going to come up with some shit. We're going to say some shit. And I did it on zoom, so she's like, okay, what you got to say, Erica? I was like, okay, let me ... because she has three levels. And so by the time we got to level three, I was like, okay, I got to turn off zoom, see y'all can't see me say [crosstalk 00:45:29] to say.

Kenrya: Why not? I'd be like, in the chat.

Erica: No, because she's like [crosstalk 00:45:35] No, she wants inflection. Maybe you need to put your emphasis on this or drag out this word. I mean, it's a really good class.

Kenrya: That's dope.

Erica: I suggest y'all take it. But yeah, I love me some dirty talk.

Kenrya: Then you would've fit right in, in this scene.

Erica: Girl. I was like, mm. I was taking notes like, oh, oh. I'm going to have to say some of this. So yeah, it was a good scene particularly because of the talking, but that's all I got. You got anything?

Kenrya: I think the only other thing is that one of the things, lots of things that I really loved about this book that you mentioned at the very top was the interconnectedness of the story.

Erica: Yeah.

Kenrya: I really appreciated it.

Erica: It was like, dink, dink, dink. That's a chain being connected, but yeah.

Kenrya: It was nice, and I mean speaks to the interconnectedness of life and how none of us are really operating in silos, even when we feel like we are.

Erica: Even in the middle of a fucking pandemic where we're all isolated, we're not.

Kenrya: Yeah. And I think she did a really good job of bringing that out. Yeah.

Erica: Yeah.

Kenrya: So I enjoyed it. And like you said, for those who like a quick read. And it is nice to sometimes just pop into a world and pop out.

Erica: Yeah.

Kenrya: And this was nice to see three different parts. It was a very good example of world building in a short amount of a space. How she dropped us in, showed us the same world from three different perspectives, six different perspectives really, was really cool.

Erica: Okie dokie.

Kenrya: Yeah. It was dope.

Erica: Well, that's all I've got. So we're going to take a quick break and then we're going to come back to our segment.

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Erica: Hey, y'all. So we're back for, What's Turning Us On. Kenrya, you have a cousin of another product.

Kenrya: Yes.

Erica: Share, please.

Kenrya: So on an earlier this season, we talked about this thing that I was hella late on, that everybody else apparently was using. Well, bitches, I don't know if y'all late on this. You're probably not. I'm probably also late on this, but it does. It has a cousin that's got this little thing on it.

Erica: He got a tail.

Kenrya: He got a tail. So it's a little smaller than the original, but it's got this piece. And when we opened it, my partner, I had been saying it goes in your butt, just like [inaudible 00:49:27] My partner was like, does it? So then the instructions are in Mandarin, so we had to go online.

Erica: Okay, pictures.

Kenrya: Yeah, so looking for photos. It does indeed go in your butt. I was just trying to understand how this goes. Yeah, it goes in your butt.

Erica: The whole thing?

Kenrya: Uh-huh (affirmative) but you can also [crosstalk 00:49:50].

Erica: And does it go like this?

Kenrya: Uh-huh (affirmative).

Erica: Turn it on. Let me see.

Kenrya: Hopefully it's charged. Yeah. So the vibration is mainly ... It's obviously powered here, but it's meant to give you ... if you like a full situation [crosstalk 00:50:16] that you can go on and put this up in there while you are using this on your ... because it's a clit stimulator. So it's giving you a couple of different types of stimulation at the same time. And yeah, it's meant for this piece to flutter just a little bit inside your body. It's very subtle. I can feel it on my hand, but it's not like a fucking butterfly wing or anything. Yeah.

Erica: Okay, but you can also put it in your cooch.

Kenrya: You could put it in your cooch as well. It just all depends on where you like, but make sure that you clean it very well in between, moving it from place to place.

Erica: Oh, yeah.

Kenrya: We don't want to [crosstalk 00:50:55].

Erica: I think I'll just keep it dedicated from one or the other.

Kenrya: Exactly.

Erica: But yeah, but I mean, you should be cleaning all your toys. Let's be very clear.

Kenrya: But we'll put the link up for the cousin of ...

Erica: Rose's cousin that came in from St. Olaf.

Kenrya: Exactly.

Erica: All right. Well, this was great. Thank you so much, Kenrya, for showing us your rendition of the rose. Thanks. Okay, y'all, so it's your favorite ho hosts, Erica and Kenrya, two hoes making it clap.

Kenrya: Yeah.
 
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TRANSCRIPT:
Kenrya: Come here. Get off.

Erica: Hey, y'all. Welcome to this week's episode of The Turn On. Today, we are going to give you, what? Just a tip.

Kenrya: Oh, that too.

Erica: Just a tip, a quickie. A quickie. Today, mailbag questions. We got some really interesting questions this time, so I hear. Killa, take it away.

Kenrya: Okay. Our first question reads, "So, I'm 25 and living in a small but major city. I got out of a long-time entanglement when COVID hit and just have been trying to get back into dating. I'm somewhere in between dating with purpose and just fucking because men are trash. I was talking to this one man but we stopped because he was inconsistent so I broke it off. He hit me up and wants another chance. To be clear, the head and dick game was always bomb but should I do it? It's like I need to get broken off, I'm just off my period and I got a fresh wax." Lord, have mercy. "Do I just need to hop back on the dating sites or give this man another chance? He's not terrible but I hate inconsistency. I'm also not trying to raise no grown man who can't communicate but it's a pandemic and dick is not just as available as it used to be. Help."

Erica: For me, I think it's not a difficult question to answer once you figure out what the fuck you want from this person, right?

Kenrya: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Because this person seems to not quite be entirely certain.

Erica: Yeah. If you're like, "Hey, I want some dick and that's all I want." Then, yeah, give him a chance because it's a panny. Aint nobody trying ... It's hard finding someone new, right? But, to me, if you're trying to determine whether or not you want to give him a chance to actually be with him, be with him, then that's some soul searching you going to have to do. I'm going to say no.

Kenrya: He already shown you who he was. Ugh, no. Inconsistent niggas stay inconsistent.

Erica: Yeah. And if he ain't consistent in the beginning when shit's gravy, he ain't going to be consistent later on. What do you think?

Kenrya: I mean, I say no all around because here's the thing, right? Even if you just decide that you want this person for dick, they inconsistent so you can't even count on their being consistent dick. I'm like if all you want is somebody who you can call when you need it, who you can trust to be safe and to be taking care of themselves in the middle of a fucking pandemic and not exposing you to other people's germs, then maybe you need to find somebody who you can trust to be consistent in that way too.

Erica: Okay.

Kenrya: This person is already showing you that that's not who they are.

Erica: Okay. Yeah.

Kenrya: Or you could just hit it once and keep it moving.

Erica: Yeah. Just at this point in the panny, trying to date is just a whole situation.

Kenrya: And I say that as somebody who has regular dick so take that with a massive grain of salt.

Erica: And understand I'm the one without regular dick so we come from different sides of the tracks per se. Erica, single, don't have consistent dick. I say, if you're just giving him another chance to give you some dick, then by all means, give him another chance to give you some dick. If you trying to have a relationship with the nigga, no, he's shown that he's inconsistent.

Kenrya: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Yeah. Or just have sex enough to take the edge off and then you can use that calming time.

Erica: Give him enough to clear your brain and then actually go do some work.

Kenrya: Exactly, and you can get on the apps and do whatever and find somebody who you can actually trust with you heart and your pussy.

Erica: And your pussy.

Kenrya: Yeah.

Erica: Okay, next question.

Kenrya: All right. "I'm a bi woman trying to date in the pandemic. I haven't seriously dated a woman since my college girlfriend but I've slept with a couple in the last four years. I want to date more women but can't seem to find anyone out there. It's not that I'm picky but I am. I went on this date Friday with a woman and it was a straight six out of 10. She hit me up saying she wants to do it again, but something fun like paintball. The issue is she lives an hour away and she suggested that our date be even further away than that. I know there's not many women out here to date but an hour just seems excessive for a date, especially when I don't really see it getting serious. It's just I feel like it can be just on and off fucking. What I know is that I won't drive an hour for pussy and I wouldn't for dick so should I cut it short? What are your thoughts?"

Erica: Yeah. Because at this point, it feels like you are just entertaining this person because-

Kenrya: Just because.

Erica: Yeah, because you're like, "I want to date a woman." The way you described it definitely described it as just, "I'm here for the Cheddar Bay biscuits. I'm here for the free bread." I would cut it off just because it sounds like, and I am queen of this, it sounds like you can end up in a situation where you're in deep with somebody and they're like, "I love you." And you like, "How the fuck we get here?"

Kenrya: Right. Eyes all big and shit, like oh my God.

Erica: Exactly.

Kenrya: Yeah, yeah. I'm with you. I feel like ain't no sense in playing with her emotions. If you ain't into it, then you ain't into it and ... Damn, have I driven an hour? I have driven an hour for dick.

Erica: Girl, I've driven an hour for dick, I've driven to Philly for dick.

Kenrya: Yeah, you did. But it was because I really wanted it and then when I didn't want it anymore, I didn't do it anymore, and-

Erica: And it wasn't a consistent dick, for me. It was like, "Somebody up here, I'm going to have some sex." But it's not like we fucking regularly and I'm driving constantly up there.

Kenrya: Yeah. I wouldn't fuck with her emotions. You said it was a six out of 10, that's mediocre. I don't want mediocre nothing, right? Not no mediocre dates, not no mediocre fucking, not no mediocre connection. Why do it to yourself? I'm sure you can find another woman somewhere out there who would actually want to fuck more than a six out of 10.

Erica: Yes. And if that date is six out of 10, ain't no telling what the sex is like.

Kenrya: Right. Because if you don't have that spark, if there's no chemistry, then why bother?

Erica: Yeah.

Kenrya: Cool.

Erica: Okay.

Kenrya: Next up, "I'm very sex positive and pro hoe. I'm also pro choice and pro damn near everything else. When I have the sex conversation, I usually state three things. One, the number of partners I have. Two, I'm not on birth control. And, three, I wouldn't have an abortion if I got pregnant. I've already had one and I just know the physical and emotional stress it takes. I know telling men I've had one makes them take my statement more seriously but am I oversharing? I also want to normalize abortions because I believe it is normal but is there a line?" It's a great question.

Erica: Girl, I was about to say, you sharing too much by telling the number of partners you've had.

Kenrya: I don't ... No, they didn't say that I have, or she doesn't say that I've had-

Erica: Oh, that I've had. The number of people that's in rotation.

Kenrya: Currently, exactly. They say “have.”

Erica: I don't think that that's oversharing. I think that it gives everybody a-

Kenrya: Level playing field.

Erica: Yeah, like this is what we're doing, this is where we are, and I think we'd all be a lot better if we could actually have those conversations to start with, right?

Kenrya: Yeah. I think it's super mature. And obviously it also kind of puts your, not your politics, but what's important to you right up front and the way that they respond will also tell you a lot about who they are and whether or not they're somebody that you want to further engage with and it's interesting because there isn't such thing as giving too much information. Once I started learning about boundaries in relationships, I learned that there can be people who have no boundaries and those are the folks who tell you every single thing that has ever happened to them on the very first phone call that you have and then you have to wonder about how much they share all the time with everybody and whether or not that's a relationship you want to get into. But I don't think that this is that. I think that this is being really clear about what's important to you and then hopefully they are also giving you their take and it opens up great conversations too about where their head is at. No, I don't think it's oversharing at all.

Erica: I don't think it is. I actually think it's a really good practice.

Kenrya: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Share on.

Erica: Share on, person. Share on.

Kenrya: Yeah. All right. Here's our fourth and final letter from the mailbag.

Erica: This shit sound messy.

Kenrya: All right. "I'm really not over my ex nigga, no lie. He was sleeping with me while he had a pregnant wife, which was a shock to me, and got me pregnant. I was 24 and he was 33 so I knew I didn't want to stay pregnant and apparently, neither did his wife. Fast forward a couple months and, boom, I find out he has two kids already, nine and 10. Like nigga, I teach that age group. What the fuck? I know hanging out and talking is just a bad idea because I honestly don't know how you can betray someone and deceive them like that but what do I do and how do I get over it? I already have a therapist,” word to therapy, “and she says it just takes time but it's been like six months." There's two questions here, “What do I do?” And “How do I get over it?” Okay. First of all, what do you do? You leave that nigga alone. This is ... I block niggas for saying that they alpha males.

Erica: I blocked a nigga because he had a cat.

Kenrya: Yeah. You don't need a reason to block a nigga but this nigga has given you all of the reasons to block them. First, I think what you do is you cut off contact. This is a person who has told you that they don't have a problem lying to you about fucking life.

Erica: Kids. How you missing a whole person?

Kenrya: Two whole ass people that already—like they came out your balls. Yeah, nah. Nah. This person does not deserve to be in your life and to have another chance to lie to you and they've done nothing to show that they ... As far as at least not what you included in the letter, to show you that they wouldn't do it again.

Erica: Yeah. You got to get this nigga out your system. You got to act like he don't fucking exist. You need to block him. If his name is Jeremy, every Jeremy on the street you need to avoid. Get this nigga out of your system and then remind yourself of what he did from a ... Not to me, I don't know him, but like imagine if your girlfriend was telling you this story, you'd be like, "Girl, you might know him, the dick might be good, but the shit ain't right." Just remind yourself that you deserve more and that if you lying about this shit, what else would you be willing to lie about?

Kenrya: Right. And your therapist is right, it does just take time. Niggas be wilin’ and, honestly, a lot of times, the best way that you can get perspective and distance is to give yourself space and time to get there. It's interesting, I still have moments where, like the other day, I was in the bathroom, I don't know, cleaning the tub or some shit, and had a flashback to some ignorant shit that I let a nigga say to me and then I had to stop myself and say, "Hey, you didn't let him say that to you, that is something that he chose to say. Now your reaction was what it was but you wouldn't go back there." And reminding myself that, "Yeah, this was fucked up and this was years ago." And that shit popped back up on me, which is why I say, yes, it takes time but giving yourself that space to ... Like meditation, when they say when the thoughts come at you, just let them go on by. When you have thoughts of this nigga, just let them go on by.

Kenrya: Don't pick up your phone, don't go on the IG and look at no photos, don't send a text, just let them shits flow by and recognize that they don't mean that you want to be with him or that you need to be with him but that thoughts just sometimes pop up and that's okay. But you don't have to act on, except for to keep that nigga out of your space.

Erica: Yep.

Kenrya: Yeah.

Erica: That's a good way to put it, girlfriend.

Kenrya: Yeah, let them shits go. Well, that's it for this week's mailbag episode.

Erica: This is Erica and Killa, two hoes, making it clap.

Kenrya: Two hoes, making it clap. I don't even try anymore.

Erica: Yeah, I went too fast.

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